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'Lactivists' protest outside Evans courthouse

Posted: March 5, 2012 - 2:15pm  |  Updated: March 6, 2012 - 9:47am
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Michelle Fogle holds her baby Liam, 3 months, in front of the Columbia County Justice Center where she was participating in a nurse-in to protect her right to breast feed her baby in public.  Jim Blaylock
Jim Blaylock
Michelle Fogle holds her baby Liam, 3 months, in front of the Columbia County Justice Center where she was participating in a nurse-in to protect her right to breast feed her baby in public.

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A sign hanging near the front steps of the Columbia County Justice Center Monday that read “Don’t Be Lactose Intolerant” reinforced the message a group of nursing mothers hoped to get across to lawmakers.
About 20 women, a handful of husbands, and numerous children gathered at the Evans courthouse for the nurse-in protest, which was part of a statewide effort to bring awareness to discrimination faced by mothers breast-feeding in public.
Several signs made by protestors, who called themselves “lactivists,” were taped to garbage cans surrounding the group. One stated, “If adults can eat it public, so can babies.” Another proclaimed breast milk “The Original Happy Meal.”
“I don’t think Evans has ever seen this before,” said local event coordinator Heather Comprosky.
The idea for the nurse-in started when Woodbine, Ga., mother Nirvana Jeannette was forced out of her church for breast feeding and told by law enforcement she could be arrested for indecent exposure.
As a result, events similar to the one in Evans were held Monday in Atlanta, Woodbine, Savannah and Warner Robins.
“When women are under attack, we look out for one another,” said Andrea McPherson, who also helped organize the Evans nurse-in.
The lactivists hope to change state law to protect mothers nursing in public from being harassed and arrested. Anyone currently caught nursing in public face charges of indecent exposure and a maximum fine of $1,000.
“We’re not strippers,” said Comprosky, who nurses her 18-month-old son, Wyatt. “We believe the law needs teeth.”
Evans resident Kristin Lovell heard about the event on Facebook, where 50 people had confirmed their attendance.
Lovell brought to the nurse-in her husband, Steven, and four of her five children, all of whom she breast fed.
“It just seems as the years go by, breast feeding becomes more taboo,” said Lovell, who breast feeds her 8-month-old son, Jake. “It’s just a shame that people are being told it’s obscene and not to feed their children.”

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Casting_Fool

GaStang22, I'm an American

GaStang22, I'm an American Christian male who respects women who are seeking their right to feed their babies. In my 55 years, I've never seen a woman deliberately expose her breast(s) in a "lewd manner" while breastfeeding her baby. Never.

"... some loudmouth brings attention to herself you happen to look and when you see whole breasts and nipples exposed..."

Some woman "announced" that she was breastfeeding, and whipped out her bosom for the world to see? I sort of doubt that. I personally do not find a breast that's accidentally exposed during breastfeeding enticing. If "... you happen to look...", then you should be respectful and look away.

I don't approve of any public nakedness, even on the beach, and I consider a bikini nakedness. I wrote a paper on the topic, you can find it here: http://www.dracosanctus.net/goldentriangle.html It's called "The Golden Triangle".

I'm not sure why you took offense at that as it had nothing to do with your kids but was a general statement, as was most of the rest of my comment. It was not directed toward anyone or anyone's children in particular.

... and breastfeeding is not illegal in Georgia, or 45 other states. For that matter, 25 states exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws. http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/health/breastfeeding-state-laws.aspx

I'm still wondering why you never addressed why you equated breastfeeding with ignorantly passing gas in public. I found that extremely offensive. How could you make that sort of comparison? Those two things are world's apart.

Casting_Fool

Just tried a third time, but

Just tried a third time, but I must be missing editing out the key word that's tripping the filters.

Or maybe the moderators are out to a really long lunch...

GaStang22

"My son is grown now, but

"My son is grown now, but when he was a little tike, had he noticed a woman breastfeeding and asked what she was doing, I'd have told him in plain terms and then instructed him not to stare"

You should teach your kids earlier not to go around staring at womens breasts and teach him later they aren't only for feeding kids with but also for sex, just like on tv. But you should also teach him what body parts arent to be displayed in public for whatever reason so he doesn't go to jail. We know what other body parts are naturally used for, but its not acceptable to show those in public either.

If you do not know the difference between notice and stare, then you have a problem that needs to be dealt with. For petes sake go teach him now that you have been informed!!

If its so natural and absolutely appropriate, why even be discrete at all?

Just a few more things like hypocrisy and proper manner you should teach your son about in addition to the difference between notice and stare:

Casting:
"It gives me a good feeling to see them doing what my wife wanted to do but couldn't" .......

"Why are you looking at her? Do you "get off" on watching women breastfeed?!"

Casting:
"dress like hookers (yes, you church ladies)

Talking about God and insulting Church ladies in the same post. You should teach your kid better than setting that kind of example to insult and wrongly stereotype a whole group of people.

Casting_Fool

Ah cheese and crackers... I

Ah cheese and crackers...

I hope that they don't post all three of my attempts. My apologies if they do.

Casting_Fool

My son is 25, it's bit late

My son is 25, it's bit late to play parent and try to control his life, sorry. At his age, they usually figure out the sex/breast thing on their own. If he doesn't, I'll get him a copy of "Intended for Pleasure" by Dr. & Mrs. Ed Wheat. Excellent book for Christians on married sex.

You wrote: "Talking about God and insulting Church ladies in the same post. You should teach your kid better than setting that kind of example to insult and wrongly stereotype a whole group of people."

You meant that I shouldn't try to get church ladies to dress appropriately? That I should just keep my mouth shut and let them dress like the world? Gonna be a lot of pastors in trouble when they deal with that topic...

Think about reading: http://www.dracosanctus.net/goldentriangle.html

It'll help you to understand where I'm coming from on that topic.

... and again, you didn't explain why you equated breastfeeding with "farting". I'm surprised that no one took you up on that other than myself.

Casting_Fool

Next time I wait 48 hours for

Next time I wait 48 hours for the moderators, my bad.

Casting_Fool

You quoted and wrote: "It

You quoted and wrote: "It gives me a good feeling to see them doing what my wife wanted to do but couldn't" ....... "Why are you looking at her? Do you "get off" on watching women breastfeed?!"

Which part of "notice and respectfully look away" didn't get across?

GaStang22

First, never said

First, never said deliberately (well could be, some people do crave attention) I said are careless and don't take precautions to be discrete about it and make sure it doesn't. Never said, they announce it, there are other ways of calling attention to yourself you know. Seen one who didn't like the fact a lady rolled her eyes and said what you got a problem walked over by her table pulled it out completely and said how you like that... say something now B, with some other vulgar things. With children all around, her baby in arms getting confrontational. Human response it to look to see what all the commotion is. So inappropriate it wasn't funny. And just because you have never seen something, does it mean it does not exist? Those are the type who make most people have a problem with breastfeeding. The ones that make a spectacle of themselves. If you are being discrete and some moron has a problem with it, ignore them, don't cause a scene in front of kids with your baby in your arm and confront someone with attitude that could escalate into an unsafe situation. Is it worth it? Just feed your baby and use appropriate options to deal with the situation.

Second, about my children, your post was in response to my posts was it not? You kept saying your kids, your kids, in the same post as you kept referring to me so how was that "in general" or not directed towards me and my children? Should have been different posts if it wasn't directed at me. I don't think any one's specific children or any of their family should be brought into a post unless the door was opened by that poster. Even then sometimes it is best left out just out of respect depending on the comments.

GaStang22

Third, the passing gas I

Third, the passing gas I never addressed because I didn't need to. You didn't ask a question. I posted an example, you posted a response saying you couldn't' believe it, I didn't know you were asking for an explanation. lol But am more than happy to give one. Yes they are worlds apart, but would you not agree passing gas intentionally when you could excuse yourself in a public dining place just out of respect and common decency? If not, then I know people like you lol Very funny sometimes in public, but not when people are eating. I'm not talking about something you can't help that was a one time embarrassing thing you didn't mean, I mean intentional! lol But the comparison is, I know a few people who were raised by people who do it where and when they want, even raise up to let you know its coming and laugh, at the dinner table in public. They know no different as that's how they are raised, but some are offended by it, it may make them gag smelling it or ruining their dinner while others keep eating. Point being, some things though not horrible, are not good manners in [filtered word] and precautions should be taken to lessen the chance of them happening in public if possible, just out of common decency in understanding certain things may or may not offend someone. I curse like a sailor, think nothing is wrong with it as do many others, but when around people I may offend with it, I respect them enough not to do it. Like in church or school, around children, my in laws lol etc...

GaStang22

So basically the point is,

So basically the point is, acknowledge people are different than you and while you may have a right to do something there is a compromise between the two that can keep the peace on all sides just out of respect for you fellow man. Even if you despise the person, out of respect for all the other citizens, and especially children, around you that have done nothing. The other people may even come to your defense until you offend them with your public spectacle.

So my thing was, why not also address the women who make breastfeeding look bad and at least throw in educating and advising women about how to be discrete, not being trashy and confrontational in with the protests. I personally think it would be a smart move on the part of the lactivists to publicly promote discreteness with their right to breastfeed. I think they would get tons more support than opposition from a lot of people on the fence on breastfeeding because of the ones that give them the bad name by using such a compromise. It would be a good tactic to get their point across and gain support without making people feel they are shoving their beliefs on people who may be a little more modest and raised differently. I think there would be less confrontation about it and more understanding.

I mean, I have never seen in the news here that columbia county citizens were outcasting and humiliating breastfeeding mothers so badly we needed a protest. And if that wasn't the case, this protest sure brought attention to it, and not just the good kind, but brought out a lot of people against public breastfeeding who otherwise would have never though twice about it just shook their head and moved on, to now be on the lookout for it and be more outspoken against it. So it can backfire sometimes and start to cause a problem in a town where there once was none. It appeared to be shoving it down their throat, but a simple addition of adding in "we have a right but be discrete out of respect" would have been a lot more classy and appealing to the opposition.

I for one would have looked at it like, wow, now that's a great group and given them 100% support. But because they don't see the bad ones or may even be nudists and think nothing is indecent about a naked body in public, they call others liars and haters. Of course that causes conflict. Just because God made it doesn't mean its not offensive to some. Otherwise, marijuana wouldn't be illegal and there would be no law against public nakedness. God's gift of human life wasn't born clothed, so lets all protest so no one ever has to wear clothes, to heck with offending anyone. It's natural, designed by God, otherwise we would all be covered in hair like an animal.

Sorry for the long post, I hope you can understand where I'm coming from now. Even maybe some of the lactivists who aren't selfishly wrapped up in me, me, me can understand there is a compromise that can impact the way this issue is viewed. You will always have a few people irrational and rude about their demand for mothers to stop in public and always a few mothers who enjoy public displays of confrontation out of site while breastfeeding and you will never change either of those minds. Even if you don't wholly agree, for no other reason than gaining support for your cause, its smart to appeal to both sides when protesting an issue like this.

GaStang22

The first post, responses 1

The first post, responses 1 and 2 were held, as was the conclusion post after response 3, which I hope you agree with. Just so you know and will be on the lookout for them. =)

GaStang22

"You meant that I shouldn't

"You meant that I shouldn't try to get church ladies to dress appropriately? That I should just keep my mouth shut and let them dress like the world? Gonna be a lot of pastors in trouble when they deal with that topic..."

No, the problem is you sterotyped Church ladies insinuating all. The simple word "some" instered would have negated any insult to a whole group. I try to do that if you notice. I don't saw al breastfeeding mothers, I say some becuase I know some a very respectful of others and their beliefs when doing it in public. Actually theres a post by a breastfeeding mom on one of these blogs who said some of the same things as me about noticing some who arent discrete and respectful and thinks they should be.

GaStang22

"Which part of "notice and

"Which part of "notice and respectfully look away" didn't get across?"

That is exactly was trying to figure out from you. Every Time I said notice or glance, you keep saying stare!! I just posted that post to get you to understand the difference in notice and stare. I don't stare at people and my kids are taught that from day 1. I never want to make anyone feel uncomfortable and I wouldn't like to be stared at either. Do unto others ya know. You just kept on with the stare stare stare, just because we notice or glance. We're Not blind, we look around and notice things!! lol And in that moment of glancing around the room instead of looking at the ground all day or looking back to see what the loud nasty comments are about and a nipple pops out, you notice! lol Has nothing to do with staring.

Casting_Fool

Since I feel that we're just

Since I feel that we're just going around in circles now, I'll respond to just this:

"Third, the passing gas I never addressed because I didn't need to."

I personally felt that you needed to. It was not an apt comparison, and seemed to indicate that you were trying to be offensive on purpose.

In any case, you're welcome to the last word as I feel that I've said enough on the topic.

Toodles. :O)

GaStang22

The because I didn't need to

The because I didn't need to part if you read past the first sentence was I didn't know you were asking for a response. Did you not comprehend that? Yes, we definitely are going in circles if you can't comprehend, nor bother to read the very clarification you asked for, which you didn't in the beginning.

Now that's, as you say, unbelievable. Not that I OWE you a thing, but I spent time trying to explain to you because I actually thought you were worth a friendly debate. Not sure if you really don't get it, or just don't have a good argument. Sad.

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